tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post8449875666036427395..comments2023-10-30T04:38:32.153-06:00Comments on Mormon411: We Have A Tendencey to Blame "The Church" For Lying To Us - By Thayne AndersenMormon411http://www.blogger.com/profile/04113317471178740266noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-70649850452306430012011-11-20T17:17:39.541-07:002011-11-20T17:17:39.541-07:00Hi!
I'd like to say that yes, there is a goo...Hi! <br /><br />I'd like to say that yes, there is a good feeling when one is "right with God". I don't understand why you believe it is bad to "have a good feeling" when going to church. I do not understand what TSCC's exact view on Christianity is, because I grew up in a non-denominational church, and so I don't understand what the wrong is. Can you help me Mikayla Rosaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01715763620388522490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-45457617211592542042011-10-25T22:04:17.984-06:002011-10-25T22:04:17.984-06:00I am fascinated by your train of thought, Thayne! ...I am fascinated by your train of thought, Thayne! I have to admit I agree with much of it. I have found that blaming a church for the mistakes of human beings is a foolish way to go. <br /><br />I'm a university student studying psychology. I write research papers with (pay attention) endless citations. If there is no citation, I don't write it. So here's a couple questions:<br /><br Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03469901314992519227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-89449724824409153952011-10-07T03:58:01.447-06:002011-10-07T03:58:01.447-06:00it is so sad when we confuse 'the church' ...it is so sad when we confuse 'the church' with God.<br />I agree with much of what you are saying and have questioned many such things myself...but I remind myself (constantly!) that many of these beliefs and rules and regulations are human made, and all humans are...well, human.<br />The INSTITUTION sure has a lot to answer for...bringing people up to fear the consequence of questioning,susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04240548697797268944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-21218217230092567052011-10-04T13:10:58.951-06:002011-10-04T13:10:58.951-06:00Interesting..
http;//wayfarersquest-rsctt.blogsp...Interesting..<br /><br /><br />http;//wayfarersquest-rsctt.blogspot.comrsctt603https://www.blogger.com/profile/01761777595951889120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-87404007715017405422011-10-04T09:48:58.697-06:002011-10-04T09:48:58.697-06:00I'd say the situation is a little different if...I'd say the situation is a little different if you actually grew up in the church. I didn't pay for or buy into the church so much as it was forced upon me.<br />I think being a little bitter about being lied to is completely justified. I left as soon as I could.Markimedeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01261107710121733263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-51173119375932982862011-10-02T03:48:25.408-06:002011-10-02T03:48:25.408-06:00Congratulations on getting out of the LDS. I was n...Congratulations on getting out of the LDS. I was not raised Mormon but Pentecostal. I had to go to church three days a week and bible camp in the summers, in other words I got the full indoctrination. It took me years of study and thought to deprogram myself. I just wanted to give you my support for your breaking of the chains of mental bondage and for spreading the word. Peace and let the light DrawingYouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00007381841481157574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-71077967964605653862011-09-23T15:59:29.409-06:002011-09-23T15:59:29.409-06:00Most people have been brought up in the faith of t...Most people have been brought up in the faith of their parents, and that means powerful emotional bonds were created between the faith and adherents. This bond can take years to break, because as I said they are irrational to begin with. <br /><br />People feel angry at being sold a destructive productive, faith. But the peddlers of superstition are typically not like the tobacco industry who donAndrew Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01495983897864604830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-81470073078269061082011-09-21T01:05:27.600-06:002011-09-21T01:05:27.600-06:00Absolutely. It's a cycle. Plenty of blame to g...Absolutely. It's a cycle. Plenty of blame to go around.IonicPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12251041089940819047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-61340055151599749842011-09-20T08:07:31.599-06:002011-09-20T08:07:31.599-06:00Iconic Paul:
Yes - You are right. I'm not hol...Iconic Paul:<br />Yes - You are right. I'm not holding the Church "blameless" at all. <br />I AM claiming, however, that in many cases, I (we) have tended to fault them for giving me what I asked for in the first place -- and over, and over and over again.Thaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11304579097182075052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-39396900711295339232011-09-20T00:11:21.218-06:002011-09-20T00:11:21.218-06:00Addendum: Again, I'm not saying you are saying...Addendum: Again, I'm not saying you are saying what I responded to above, because I'm frankly a little tired and might've misread your intent as not blaming the church at all when you just meant to not blame it too much, in which case I agree.IonicPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12251041089940819047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-26627961969310655122011-09-20T00:08:54.758-06:002011-09-20T00:08:54.758-06:00My thoughts: This is partially right. While I agre...My thoughts: This is partially right. While I agree that the church is meant as a way to feel good and people want that even if it's not true, I think it shifts some necessary blame away from the church. It still professes it as truth. And while I must concede that if people never turned the other cheek when it came to the truth, religion would be a lot less prominent today, I must, however, IonicPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12251041089940819047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-18447322678424238502011-09-19T20:17:35.296-06:002011-09-19T20:17:35.296-06:00Thanks for your comments, Russell Jack and Mormon4...Thanks for your comments, Russell Jack and Mormon411.<br />Those who have the most right to be "angry" at whatever church they have joined are those who don't get the "feeling good" vibes at all. For example, those who have needed comfort and solace only to find rejection, incompetence and BS.<br />The first "lie" is that feeling good is itself a confirmation ofThaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11304579097182075052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-83447374598947702972011-09-19T18:36:40.238-06:002011-09-19T18:36:40.238-06:00i want to rationalize my anger for the church so m...i want to rationalize my anger for the church so much (i mean, walt disney at least says his movies are fiction, so this is totally different). but as i read on, i have to admit you're probably right. had i wanted "truth" like the church claims to have, i would have investigated the things i now know.<br /><br />can i be angry at my parents for "taking me to a bar and making russell jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17601323487844796401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-18515797145984326132011-09-19T16:45:34.394-06:002011-09-19T16:45:34.394-06:00Fast Food Theology<a href="http://mormon411.blogspot.com/2009/04/religion-vs-fast-food.html" rel="nofollow">Fast Food Theology</a>Mormon411https://www.blogger.com/profile/04113317471178740266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-12781127572741076522011-09-19T16:40:38.782-06:002011-09-19T16:40:38.782-06:00Thayne,
Well said. I have blamed the church and ...Thayne,<br /><br />Well said. I have blamed the church and been bitter for years. You are absolutely right.<br /><br />My experience differs a bit from yours. I prayed, paid, and obeyed not because I wanted peace, but because I was afraid.<br /><br />And the difference between Walt Disney and TSCC, is that WD never claimed that his stories were the literal truth whereas TSCC does.<br /><br />Mormon411https://www.blogger.com/profile/04113317471178740266noreply@blogger.com