tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post797549894521796098..comments2023-10-30T04:38:32.153-06:00Comments on Mormon411: How About A Bit More On TithingMormon411http://www.blogger.com/profile/04113317471178740266noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-25890675315231128812010-01-12T15:49:35.246-07:002010-01-12T15:49:35.246-07:00You believe that there is no God. I think that'...You believe that there is no God. I think that's faith, since you don't 'know', unless we have a different understanding of the word faith. Faith is damaging to us when it is placed behind incorrect eternal principles.<br /><br />You say that atheists aren't afraid of the unknown, neither are religious people. (well, that's a generalization on my part, some might be afraidUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06462809870203202863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-80718373586592584652010-01-12T15:29:54.162-07:002010-01-12T15:29:54.162-07:00As far as atheists are concerned, the origin of th...As far as atheists are concerned, the origin of the universe doesn't really matter. It's okay to not know. We are not afraid of the unknown.<br /><br />I can't state that I KNOW there is no god any more than you can state that you know you do.<br /><br />But what I can state, and this is where our experiences differ, is that life as a believer vs. a non-believer has been exactly theMormon411https://www.blogger.com/profile/04113317471178740266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-22713981063565062182010-01-12T14:24:31.554-07:002010-01-12T14:24:31.554-07:00You bring up some good points. Let me clarify my p...You bring up some good points. Let me clarify my position and beliefs for you.<br /><br />I don't do "anything because someone says so". I don't even automatically do what my priesthood leaders say. I consider what they say, think about it, even pray about it sometimes. Then I do what I think is right. I have yet to come across a major difference between what they say and what IUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06462809870203202863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-8700125060204252662010-01-11T23:00:18.784-07:002010-01-11T23:00:18.784-07:00Well, Ammon, if that works for you then I'm gl...Well, Ammon, if that works for you then I'm glad it does.<br /><br />I, however, am done doing anything just because someone "says so" and requires me to have faith about it.<br /><br />When I read your last comment, I hear you basically saying: "I'll do everything I'm told and accept life however it comes."<br /><br />As I have tried to demonstrate, life comes at Mormon411https://www.blogger.com/profile/04113317471178740266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-61910625912198804962010-01-11T11:50:29.379-07:002010-01-11T11:50:29.379-07:00I guess you and I value the 'return on our inv...I guess you and I value the 'return on our investment' differently. I also still have flat tires (I have one now in fact), I need 4 new tires and can't afford it at the moment. But God continues to bless me in other areas of my life, I'm not going to pick and choose which commandments I keep based on my needs, I'm going to do my best to keep all of God's commandments Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06462809870203202863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-62937657412761699022010-01-08T20:21:12.488-07:002010-01-08T20:21:12.488-07:00I've written posts before about that very thin...I've written posts before about that very thing. Hell, if paying tithing actually did yield a 1000% return, then I would pay with a huge smile on my face.<br /><br />But I can honestly tell you that since leaving the church, my life is no better or worse. I got flat tires as a believer; I get them as an unbeliever.<br /><br />I've given your test a chance and I'm sorry to say that Mormon411https://www.blogger.com/profile/04113317471178740266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-79259175753663200742010-01-07T13:42:28.183-07:002010-01-07T13:42:28.183-07:00In one of your earlier posts you mentioned that yo...In one of your earlier posts you mentioned that you didn't want to live by faith but by real things.<br /><br />Here's the deal for me. I'm either really lucky or blessed by God when I keep commandments like tithing.<br /><br />You can't really believe that your life is governed by luck any more than you can think it's faith. If I was just a lucky person, then when I wasn'Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06462809870203202863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-31187737661848271962010-01-07T12:23:45.942-07:002010-01-07T12:23:45.942-07:00Ammon,
Assuming that the church is true, then, ye...Ammon,<br /><br />Assuming that the church is true, then, yes, I am missing the point. But if the church is a fraud and they just want your money, then it is you who are missing the point.<br /><br />Why do churches want your money if it is the root of all evil?<br /><br />Just something for you to think about. Remember that both the Bible and Book of Mormon state that the gospel is free.<br />Mormon411https://www.blogger.com/profile/04113317471178740266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6889091745815151535.post-84091870079572021322010-01-07T10:32:34.776-07:002010-01-07T10:32:34.776-07:00I don't pay tithing 'in hopes of future bl...I don't pay tithing 'in hopes of future blessings'. I did initially, but it doesn't take long for God to bless his children. He wants to bless us now, not at some future time.<br /><br />By the way, it seems that for someone who was a member for so long, you REALLY miss the point on tithing. I'll chalk that up to the fact that you are really upset with the church for some Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06462809870203202863noreply@blogger.com