Saturday, February 22, 2014

The Advantage of Always Being Right... that if you are wrong, you're still right.

It is a pretty bold claim to be the only true church, lead by prophets and apostles who walk and talk with god.  They are the mouthpiece for the lord so anything they say is the lord's will.  In other words, continuing revelation.  But what if something that was taught is later shown to be wrong?  This would place the church in a dangerous position, thin ice so to speak.

If a teaching came from a prophet, then it is true.  Period.  Debate over.

However, if faced with the undeniable truth that something in the past was wrong, the church makes themselves look like asses no matter what they do..

If they admit they were wrong, then they discredit their own claim of infallibility.

If they won't admit they were wrong, then it makes them look like asshats who refuse to own up to their mistakes and take a little accountability.

Brigham Young was very clear and blunt in his teachings that black people were inferior.  He made very racist statements such as:
  • black people would never be free because god didn't want them to be.
  • anyone who married or had sex with a black person deserved to die.
  • black people would NEVER have the priesthood.
  • black people might make it to heaven, but would be servants to the whites.
  • black people were less valiant in the pre-existence.

Now, just recently, they have renounced all these teachings.  While this is good progress (something they take a while to get the hang of), they are basically admitting that all the prophets who taught these things were wrong.  That includes pretty much all of them.  That is a hard pill for the LDS church to swallow!

And just as in the past when the world was struggling to overcome the ugliness of racism and segregation, the world is now struggling with the gay rights issue.  If the church is just now joining the rest of the world in speaking out against racism, then that means in about 50 years, the church will renounce their viewpoint and will try to downplay their shameful behavior during the gay rights era.

I wonder...  Is their eliminating racist teachings a way to balance out the negative publicity they are getting on the gay rights issue?  It seems so to me.  The church is very self serving.  They will not make any changes unless it is in their own best interest.  In fact, the reason they gave the priesthood to blacks in 1978 was because they were threatened by the federal government of having their "tax exempt" status stripped.  This would cost them a fortune.

The LDS church will only change their stance on gay rights when either they receive so much negative publicity that they lose members by the thousands, or the federal government steps in and threatens them again with losing their tax exempt status if they don't respect the law.

This of itself is funny because the church arrogantly claims that since it is the kingdom of god, it is above the law.  The church DOES NOT change it's policies to conform to popular opinion.  But as we can see, they do.  I just find it funny that the more they claim to be lead by "the lord" the more they end up looking like foolish and arrogant pricks.

I wonder when their swarm of lies and mis-truths will all come crashing down on them.  It is their own arrogance that will be their undoing.  And yet, by letting go of their arrogance and admitting to fault, they are also shooting themselves in the foot.  No matter what they do, the day of reckoning is coming.  In fact, I think it is close.

LDS church members are very aware of the church changing policies and are already making up their little excuses to explain it away.  Please consider this article:

According to this article, god doesn't change... He modifies. Change the verb and there you have it! It's all still true! Praise Joseph Smith!  Consider this quote:

"When I hear that a certain number of changes have been made in the Book of Mormon, or to the temple endowment, or to whatever thing, that doesn’t bother me a bit."

Of course it doesn't, because you are operating on the premise that the church is ultimately true no matter what happens.  If TSM was arrested for hiring a prostitute, the members would justify it and explain it away.  If the Mormons were found to be building an atomic bomb under Temple Square, they would find some reason to explain why terrorism is okay with god.  No matter what happens, the Mormons will always have their explanations and loopholes.  And it doesn't matter what they are as long as it is some answer that somehow makes all the problems fit together.

In a nutshell:
  1. The church is true no matter what
  2. If the church is not true, see #1
  3. The prophet is never wrong
  4. If the prophet is wrong, see #3
  5. The church never changes
  6. If the church changes, see #5
  7. If we're wrong, we're not wrong.
Changes made in the church (although the church is eternal and unchanging):
  1. Polygamy renounced in 1890
  2. Priesthood given to blacks in 1978
  3. All past racist teachings officially eliminated in 2013
  4. Temple ceremonies changed many times, most recently in 2005
  5. Hundreds of changes made to scriptures (BoM, D&C, PoGP, Bible)
  6. Conference talks edited and sometimes completely removed
  7. Doctrine changes (Catholic church is the church of the devil, etc.)
They scream persecution every chance they get, but they are surely active in persecuting others who differ from them.  Very shameful, not to mention hypocritical.  You'd think for a religion that wants so badly to be "left alone", they sure can't wait to point out how wrong everyone else is!


WindspriteM├╝sli said...

That again reminds me of a lot of other churches all around the world. Whether you take the Mormon church or any other -I think it is something that's typical for all churches in the modern world -they actually know that they would perish, if they wouldn't make changes, but they're even more lying at theirselves than at others, by pretending, that they are still following Jesus, although it is actually not. Every Church is on a different state of modification in different times, and they always lag behind the time in which they actually are, take any church you want, forgetting, that their rules maybe really can't all be universal. Some rules in the bible for example, would make sense -if we lived in ancient Israel.
But the bible in Israel at least had changes -by time passing, there were always some parts added to the bible, so in the past it was "updated" from time to time, but as soon as the churches begann to make the bile part of their dogmas, they weren't able to change them any more, because then it would mean, that they didn't believe, that the bible already included all the truth you need. So let aside that it's hard to believe that there's a god, they bible and the rules of any church maybe aren't actual anymore, because nobody thought about changing it -because originally, it was the usual way, to add new parts to the bible.
So it's actually the lack of changeability, the churches built by themselves, that makes them need such poor arguments to justify theirselves. Own fault of them.

Mormon411 said...

One of the things that really makes me laugh is when people say, "The Bible was written thousands of years ago. Things were different then."

My response to that is always, "If it was different then, why do we use the Bible now?" It's like trying to use a 2000 year old road map to navigate a modern city. Makes no sense at all.

It's the perfect word of god but doesn't apply to us now but does apply to us now... A person could get a headache trying to figure it out.

Heather said...

The church is always right and those who are so brainwashed into thinking so will be its greatest defenders. My husband (before we were"out") pointed out to my parents the changes made in the introduction to the BOM. They were amazed- but unscathed.

You're right... in 50 years the church will act like gay rights were never an issue. Hopefully the church won;t last that long;)

Mormon411 said...

To the staunch believer, no amount of evidence will ever convince them it's not true.

I fear that the LDS church will be around for a long time but hopefully in 50 years it will have lost many of it's members.